Aunt refuses to pick up her 13-year-old niece from party at 3 AM, no questions asked: 'It would be crazy to not have questions.'

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  • Am I the bad guy for not agreeing to pick up my niece at 3am ‘no questions asked'?

    My sister had her friend over and they were in the lounge with my sisters kid who is 13. I'm not sure of the exact conversation before I went in but I heard the friend, Julie, tell my niece, Sam, that if she needed to be picked up from
  • somewhere it didn't matter where, when or why she'd be there. That she could call her at 3am from the boonies (this is local lingo that refers to an abandoned factory complex where 'interesting' stuff happens about forty minutes out
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  • of town) and she'd be there is her pyjamas with McDonald's no questions asked. Sam thought this was amazing and was spewing praise to Julie who said it was nothing and that
  • anyone would do the same. They then seemed to notice I was around and Julie asked me if I would do the same. I said no and that seemed to stop everyone in their tracks so I
  • clarified that yes I would pick her up but there would certainly be questions and that it would be crazy to not have questions. Sam said that I wasn't allowed to ask questions and it was 'none of
  • my business' and Julie was glaring at me for some reason and muttering something I couldn't hear under her breath to my sister. I did explain my reasoning which
  • was the boonies are over half an hour away and there is no public transport to get there. If Sam was at the boonies at 3am, and discounting the fact she shouldn't be there, she would not have gone alone so there's another
  • child to consider and she doesn't have any friends old enough to drive yet so someone would have had to have taken them there. So I would need to firstly know she was safe and unharmed and
  • at the minimum who she went with, how she got there and where her friend was. If her friend went back with whomever bought them then sure I would just take Sam home but if her friend was still there then you can bet your
  • ass we'd be staying till her friend was in the backseat and on her way back home too. Sam got really huffy and said it was still none of my business and even less about who she would
  • have gone there with and Julie made a comment about how it's not that deep. I said that it was that deep and I knew how Sam worked. If I did agree to a 'no questions asked'
  • approach, I did need to pick her up and then I asked questions she'd fly off the rails and accuse me of backstabbing her which she has done for other things in the past.
  • Julie started banging on about how I was implying she was irresponsible and that she was just trying to have Sam's back but I was being a buzzkill and a nag and that they never should have included me in the conversation.
  • I could have said more because I really think Julie was in the wrong. I get the sentiment but who even tells a 13 year old there would be no questions for being in the worst possible place at 3am??
  • I left with the parting comment that I would pick her up if she needed me and she didn't need to question that but it is my responsibility as an adult to make sure everyone is safe including her and her friends.
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  • Now I've been bombarded by people on social, and some in real life, telling me i'm a shit person for not agreeing to 'save my niece when she's in trouble' and that I'm never going to be the fun aunt or have my nieces trust again. Some
  • people are on the fence but think I'm more the wrong than not and that I got hooked into one possible scenario when it was just a blanket 'I'll be there for you thing'.
  • Kids are literal especially Sam. I honestly don't see how I'm in the wrong but every adult seems to think I am so I'm after second opinions of people disconnected from the situation. So AITAH?
  • Top-Bit85 The mother is trying too hard to be cool. The "there at 3 am with MacDonald's" gave it away. I bet that kid doesn't get much discipline in general.
  • OP WeaknessHefty3927 That was Julie the friend who made the McDonald's comment. There used to be deserved discipline and polite nudges into better habits when Sam was younger but now my sister is 'letting her be her own person' and 'discover what it means to be a functioning human' so she's kind of doing her own thing. I won't say I agree with it or really understand it to be honest but she's not my kid so I leave it be.
  • Agile_Meeting_612 My mom always said I could phone her whenever and wherever and she'd drop everything to come fetch me if I needed it. Especially when drunk and alone. She never said there wouldn't be questions but she promised I wouldn't get into trouble for calling or asking and that she wouldn't make me feel guilty that I had asked. NTA some questions need answered, especially if safety is to consider. And some can wait, more the why and what were you thinking questions for the morning in a
  • Melodic_Pack_9358 My understanding is "no questions asked" refers to while you're on the phone. The kid calls at 3am, says they need to be picked up from wherever, and the adult immediately says okay and goes to get them. That does NOT mean there will not be questions later once they are home and in a safe place. If I pick up my 15 year old from a party they arent supposed to be at and they've clearly been drinking, there most certainly will be questions and a long uncomfortable conversation. Th
  • Wankyudo They literally expect you to drive out to an abandoned factory at 3 am. Yes there's going to be questions. Like why the hell am I awake at a factory at 3 am? NTA.
  • Life Temperature2506 Is Julie available to pick me up at 3AM in the boonies with a bag of McDonalds?
  • Unhappy_Energy_741 NTA. Don't ask a hypothetical question if you can't handle a hypothetical answer.
  • Koquet NTA. Statements like that are why minors get in trouble in the first place because it gives them an impression that they can dip their toes on dangerous territories but then expect to be saved.
  • SusieQTG I too had a no questions asked policy for my kids. Although, there was a hitch. I made it clear that I wouldn't ask questions at that particular point in time. I also made it clear that I would make sure they were safe and if necessary, I'd stay up while they slept to make sure, they'd be safe. The hitch, the next day, regardless of how they felt, life in the house would be the same. Any mess they made, they would clean and then there would be questions. More importantly, I'd also liste
  • Sunnywithachance099 I think the point here is that there should be no questions asked before saying on my way. The intent here is to insure that they feel able to call when they need you. There are news stories that still haunt me and I am sure the parents of the young women involved would give anything to be able to go back and change their reaction. But that does not mean no questions or consequences once they are safe.
  • clementine1864 Why is a 13 year old hanging out anywhere at 3AM and needs a ride with "no questions asked"?

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